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August 02, 2012

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Marie

Are you going to Chick-fil-A because of the CFA controversy or because you just like to eat there? I am sure the whitetails thank you, Pastor Beeson... not so sure about the little chickens, though.

I know that some CFA protestors have chosen questionable methods that only anger or irritate the public, which to me does not help their cause, but I can understand their reason for protesting. However, I also know that everyone is allowed their opinion, which includes pastors, whether they match with mine or not. I just wonder if the support group and the protest group are on completely different ground here. Do supports stand by CFA's choice to donate to anti-gay and homophobic groups like Exodus International and Family Research Center? I think people are allowed to voice their own beliefs and to eat where they choose, but I hope if you are eating there you are doing so because you just cannot live without their chicken sandwiches, not because you support their beliefs 100%.

I realize you are not a supporter of homosexuality but I would hope you support having respect for our neighbors, friends, and family. Sometimes it feels very lonely, both in church and at home, because I support people - gay, straight, transgender, or other - and see them only as people. I love them for who they are. I don't see homosexuality as a mental illness. I believe that people who are transgender truly were born that way. I believe that if you are a good person then that is what matters most, not your sexuality. I hope that my God doesn't punish me for that. Isn't is said that God cannot love me any less than He does now? That He loves me because He loves me because He loves me? Why should that be any different because I am asexual? Why should that be any different if I am gay or straight? No one should have to live with these truths: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmg1v9mpn61qgitamo1_1280.jpg

I hope you have a blessed night, Pastor Beeson.

Will

Marie. Thanks for your post. Question for you.

Female 1 is gay. Female 1 dates female 2. Fast forward a few months. Female 1 starts transgender process to become a male.

Is female 1 (now Male 1) considered heterosexual (straight)? Which would make female 1 (now Male 1) not gay anymore?

Female 1 (turned into Male 1) asked family to attend wedding. Family does not agree with Male 1 decision to become transgendered.

How can family show love and support to Male 1 without compromising family Faith in Christ?

Since you support homosexuality, let me ask you this. Why stop at transgender and homosexuality? Why not advocate sibling marriages and gay sibling marriages? I mean, it's not WHO IS GETTING MARRIED THAT COUNTS, BUT RATHER THE COMMITMENT BETWEEN WHOMEVER IS GETTING MARRIED...right?

Why not advocate marriages with multiple people? Question Marie. Where is the line drawn for YOU to signify right versus wrong in regards to marriage?

Thanks for your feedback to my questions.

Pastor Beeson,

I believe this is a topic that is quickly being pushed to the forefront in our culture...CHURCHES and PASTORS WILL SOON HAVE TO TALK ABOUT GAYS AND TRANSGENDERS. PASTORS CAN NOT AFFORD TO SIT ON THE SIDELINES ANYMORE WHILE THE MEDIA AND THE PUBLIC CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE. Real people need real answers to deal with real issues. MONEY AND SEX are big issues, but our CULTURE IS SHIFTING RAPIDLY. If Christians do not know how to handle situations with Gays and Transgenders with LOVE then ultimately the Church will pay for it. The WORLD IS WATCHING THE CHURCH ON HOW THE CHURCH WILL HANDLE THESE SENSITIVE AND EVER IMPORTANT ISSUES. GCC has never backed down from controversial and hot topics of the day and I see no reason why GCC can't address Gays and Transgenders.

ron miller iii

It seems the point of the conversation is how much we as christians are expected to understand or adjust so that others feel more at ease with their choices. I disagree with the idea that we as christians need to change due to the culture shift in america or world. We need to hold fast to the belief that it is a sin. I will love people as my God does and have asked but will not waiver as what he has writen. You want me to change you ultimately are not loving me as a person because you have asked me to set aside my values in place of your own.

Marie

Will, thank you for the questions. It's funny, I actually had that exact conversation in the car with my mother on Wednesday. If Female 1 went through the transition to male then I would believe that Female 1 has always felt that she were a male and thus was never a lesbian to begin with. Becoming a man meant that he had something in his mind or possible genes that made him truly 100% believe that he was born in the wrong body. I cannot hate someone who has lived their life feeling that there was something wrong with them. If he transitioned to male and then married a woman, he would not be gay because he sees himself as a male. If he wanted to marry a man then yes, he would be gay, or bisexual if he felt love for both men and women.

If he went on to get married to a woman and his family did not want to come to his marriage because it went against their faith, I would understand that. I would be hurt for him but I would understand them not coming. However, I would hope that hey would still love their son even though it would be a big change that they would have to come to terms with. I would hope that they would go to counseling together and alone to help deal with the change.

Will, I understand where you are coming from with your final group of questions. I would say that no, you should not marry siblings or family members - especially if you are planning on having children because that could seriously hurt the child genetically and psycholgically. No, just because I support people of gay orientation marrying does not mean I support siblings marrying or people marrying dogs or children. I don't think people should be married to multiple spouses because I don't think that is fair to the spouses or the children, although if you asked the children of the Browns many of them would say they love having moms with different perspectives. Also, I am not simply saying "Go out and support gay marriage!" My original comment was about CFA supporting groups that support electroshock therapy and "treatments" to "cure" gay people. It was about CFA supporting groups that want to bully homosexuals and call them less-than-human. I could never go up to Ellen Degeneres, who is a selfless human being, and hate on her because of her love for Portia.


Pastor Beeson, I hope my original comment and the resulting comments have not angered you. I honestly meant no harm. I respect you, your standing, and your hopes for the future of the world. I just felt the need to post my view on this.

Will

Marie. Thanks for your feedback.

I too respect and honor Pastor Beeson. He's one of the finest pastors in America. GCC is lucky to have such a great communicator and leader such as Pastor Beeson.

Marie

Very true, Will. :)

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